John Whitgift

The Works of John Whitgift: The Second Portion, Containing the Defense of the Answer to the Admonition, Against the Reply of Thomas Cartwright: Tractates VII - X. - Parker Society

This historic book may have numerous typos or missing text. Not indexed. Purchasers can download a free scanned copy of the original book (without typos) from the publisher. 1852. Not illustrated. Excerpt: ... Jo. Whitgift. I can find no such thing in Clement'; but the matter is not great whether ho say so or no. The argument is stark naught; for, if this follow, that we may take no "example," "pattern," or testimony "of government," out of that time, because it was corrupt, then by the same reason must we not take examples of any time, no, not out of the apostles' time, because that was also corrupt, as I have said. Your arguments be passing strong: surely I marvel with what boldness you write them. Chapter ii. The Forty-first Division. T. C. Page 74, Sect. 2. And Socrates saith of the church of Rome and Alexandria, which were the most famous churches in the apostles' times, that about r) L Socrates fal-the year 430. the Roman and Alexandrian bishops, leaving the cap sacred function, were degenerate to a secular rule or dominion; whereupon we see that it is safe for us to go to the scriptures and to the apostles' times for to fetch our government and order; and that it is very dangerous to draw from those rivers the fountains whereof are troubled and corrupted, especially when as the ways whereby they run are muddier and more fenny than is the head itself. Jo. Whitgift. You falsify the words of Socrates; for thus he saith: soer. Lib. Tu. " For even till that time the Novatians flourished marvellously at Rome, and had many churches, and had gathered much people. But envy took hold of them, when as the bishopric of Rome and of Alexandria now a good while was passed beyond the limits of priesthood to an outward dominion'." dir6 HeTpov Te Kal laKtSfiov, 'lwavvov Tc Kal HavXov, Tti,v dyiwv diroirr6Xwv, irais irapd iraTpSs eKSexppei/or 6Xlyot Si ol iraTpdaiv vpoiot' Ilkoi/ Sij triiv QetS Kal els ipas Ta irpoyovtKa eKelva Kal aVotrToXtKa KaTadrlaopevoi trireppaTa.--Cle...